Which seed companies are owned by Monsanto? All corporations have to be registered with the AG of their state, with the names of the owners and primaries. Ill be back to respond to it when I can. Plantation Products, Inc. - Dave's Garden LOL! So any conclusions either of us draw from this conversation are not accurate or complete. I will continue to grow my varieties no matter who makes them since any home garden variety I can buy is GMO-free so it is a no-brainer since I like the variety I should stick up for it because tomato seeds don't have a voice in this mess and they will be lost forever, and anyone boycotting home garden seeds that Monsanto bought will only contribute to the loss of these varieties since Monsanto is only a friend of its shareholders and with the stroke of a pen will stop producting these varieties and make them lost forever. Ferry-Morse. I recently purchased a pack of Ferry Morse Sow Easy Strawberry Alpine seeds (125 seeds) from Lowes for $2.49 and planted them, using a heated mat for faster germination. Zach - you are right, there is always two sides to an issue, but consider the fact that Monsanto has a fortune to spend on convincing the public to see things from their point of view. Ferry Seed Company merged with the California based seed company C. C. Morse Company in 1930 to become the Ferry-Morse Seed Company. You disagreed that I said "a better understanding of an issue was gotten, simply by 'getting the word out'", which was not what I said. This is all I need to know.>>> OWNED BY MONSANTO OR SEMINIS OR SELL SMALL PERCENTAGES OF SEEDS FROM THEM. How about the film it links to, called Bitter Seeds which is a documentary about the impact of genetically modified cotton on Indias farmers and the suicide rate of over a quarter million Bt Cotton farmers each year due to financial stress resulting from massive crop failure and the price of Monsantos Bt seeds? And what is going to happen to the seed they are selling? I cannot support misleading people for political ends. Where are you all buying your seeds online? I need to switch - Reddit And what online source, would be reliable for that kind of information? Respect your time? That coincided with my first efforts to begin gardening and their organic, 'love the earth' approach was like a life line. I will try to get back here and finish reading everyones later. If someone could only convince farmers to stop using GMO seeds. There has been more proven environmental damage caused by planting invasives, over-use of fertilizers, and habitat destruction then GMOs. FWIW, and a big LOL to that, in the spirit of completeness, Monsanto is one of them. HWnW^aw0Dc`ECS>,Q9U3CJ yTw-yW^~vw_[)sX7yX&^\}-]N {yZ*~>|\f&G[C$zr=^^~g/V_o{q{u@0/3~+!g/q}}yy}u}wW1tPZ:1xHx'5D2C(qq|?D__BO=__{s2HH^CBm+~j-gaoKs'Y(Oq 1DV&9l"&NMetY&U jHek9~)o,*SDHecls|Vb d{9|E K+ H?WZbAP r ^`ry\m8evl&>g'QE9=0xTYJ!jp# Not Monsanto, nor any company it owns or any company it has ever owned, will sell you GMO seeds. Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, West Milford Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Ilchester Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Suffern Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers. 5.0 out of 5 stars . 0000005445 00000 n [And now about you]. (And FYI has been working on GMOs) Worse then Urban Outfitters, which has modeled clothing after Nazi Death Camp uniforms and been cited for use of (possibly involuntary) child labor? Our History. And for the sake of argument, lets say that Monsanto is not now selling GMO seed to home gardeners. One is a technology and one is a company and equating them continuiously stymies critical thinking by fusing them together. Here are some articles that should be reliable From Mother Earth News - 35 years in business, http://www.motherearthnews.com/organic-gardening/where-to-buy-non-gmo-seeds-zm0z15fmzsor.aspx, Resources for Taking Action on GMO Foods 2014, http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/gmo-foods-resources-ze0z1409zcwil.aspx. And where does it refer to your belief in anything I said? Jiffy Seed Starting. They are reliable, trustworthy seeds you know will sprout and grow when you want them to. Both a little assertive. You detail your beliefs, and I respect everyone's beliefs , especially yours, whether your beliefs are religiously-based, socially-based, or logically-based. And this article does a great job of explaining why I want to buy seed from these companies. If you have done any research at all, you have to be aware of things that Monsanto has done and is doing, that you dont agree with. Pupilla, if you didnt intend to discuss GMO, then I cannot understand why you would enter the conversation and object to a boycott of GMO seed companies. If you can tell their ideology from the title, it probably isn't. Everyone on the thread was made aware that it was inaccurate, everyone agreed that it was and that we are on our own as far as learning which seed companies are owned by Monsanto and which are not. So you claim there is no reason to avoid any seed company. And is it inaccurate to say that Monsanto does produce GMO seeds and that is their main goal? PDF Monsanto's Seed Company Subsidiaries - Food & Water Watch All Ferry-Morse seeds are 100% Non-GMO. The miniscule home gardening operation those operations developed is one of the principle sources that most seed companies we purchase from get their seeds from and rebrand from. [4] However, Ferry quickly re-organized the company, bought seeds from outside sources and absorbed two smaller seed companies, and the company managed to fill orders for its customers. Once that I buy only conventionally bred seeds, and prefer only conventionally bred vegetables and fruits and GMOs concern me but this is a case by case problem. I have selected one or two only at a time to respond to and even with those I have written at least as many, but I think plenty more words than you. Seminis seeds are carried by many popular garden catalogs, including Burpee, Park Seed, Territorial Seeds, and Johnny's Selected Seeds. I just wish the world could be as calm about it as you and I. tomatoman-"Tomato Growers Supply Company is a family-owned small specialty seed company founded in 1984 by Vince and Linda Sapp. I've ripped out invasives in my own property. Syngenta - This is the first I am hearing about it. I'm going through them all :-). You suggest GMO Crops show promisehow about a track record of crop failures and disasters? I was unaware that there are graphs 'trying' to track what they now own. 0000020325 00000 n If you really believe that your side of this conversation represents staying on the original subject as much as possible, than you did the best you could. The Ferry-Morse Seed Company is a supplier of seeds, and was at one time the largest such company in the world. Unfortunately the home garden market is only a drop in the bucket and if a big-ag company decided to discontinue it there would be varieties that could be lost forever. This is so sad. And as I already said, I already do avoid the products you mention. Are you not against any of the things that Monsanto has done and is doing? As with many things, our government is influenced by lobbyists. As a result, Ferry-Morse has earned the trust and respect of retailers and home gardeners across the country. Thanks for bringing them to my attention. So hopefully the home garden varieties can hang on until they find a nicer home. It will only cause Monsanto to close down unprofitable seed companies which will cause a loss of natural genetic diversity. The idea started with a nylon stocking to hold . And here is where I corrected what you said the first time. This means that a home gardener could unknowingly be supporting the development and proliferation of genetically modified crops if the seeds used are from Seminis. I quote your response to them: "Yes, I understand that people exaggerate, often because they've had an emotional reaction to something that really disturbs them. We just have different ways of looking at this and won't change each other. This link gives an explanation of their position on Monsanto and GMO seeds: http://www.fedcoseeds.com/seeds/monsanto.htm. Ferry-Morse Reviews USA 2023 Articles like that are written for people who think that every nonsense thing they read on the internet is true. I can't be the guy you throw a million things at hoping one will stick. What does my belief have to do with it? Is Ferry Morse Seeds owned by Monsanto? Are Ferry Morse seeds good quality? - Daily Justnow That is hurtful to all. All American Seeds are 100% Non-GMO. I take umbrage to that comment. 0000003180 00000 n You've made broad, generalizations about the people on both sides of this controversy as if you are not part of either side. Yes, you have the burden of fact checking any information for yourself. Today Jiffy seed starting products are used by professional and experienced growers around the world. Monsanto will not sell GMO seeds to the Home Gardener. First of all, you dont know that. It is possible that some companies are not eager to advertise what they own. 0000018697 00000 n Profit over everything, disguised as something else. I am not concerned about losing varieties of seeds as you are. McKenzie products are available in over 4,500 garden centers, independents and major retailers across Canada. They also had 50 seed in their sunflower packets. It even shows up innocently on GW here, except misquoting the quarter of a million figure total as a quarter of a million people per year :-( You are not pleased with me for "picking apart", even though you request fact checking on your link. Youre worried about losing a super delish tomato and Im worried about the world getting to the point of having no food supply. 0000519175 00000 n There are also plenty of graphs showing the overlap of government officials that make policy and Monsanto employees which is more worrying to me actually. The movie "Bitter Seed" is simply a movie. How about if the potential outcome is something to really be afraid of, that doesn't matter? A marketer and a preacher are two even handed words in my vocabulary. Again, I gave you alternate suggestions of how to hit Monsanto's bottom line so much harder, that included not purchasing Round-Up, not purchasing Miracle Gro products, and not purchasing the commercial Zima tomato product, which I thought would make you happy since it is conventional Monsanto seeds and the growers conned Monsanto into giving them an exclusive, which prevents all home gardeners from getting this conventional seed, even though it is super delish and was developed conventional before Monsanto bought them out. The context of my comment was that in exiting the conversation you told me you were going to give me the benefit of the doubt about my intentions. :). And let me draw attention to the fact that you did not address the other half of my statement which was about the way in which youve added your analysis of me into the discussion. We are both very detail minded, wanting precise meaning of words used, not enjoying being misunderstood triggering lengthy explanations. The same as I do about Monsanto. If you want to find out who owns a company, go to the website of the attorney general of the state where the company is located. I'm sure that what I've had to say will not be satisfactory to you. Ed, thanks for posting. Ferry Morse has been trusted by home gardeners since 1856. The observation that you think I was referring to you or labeling you, is incorrect, and I would counter that you clearly are labeling yourself. You seem to be trying to straddle both sides and see yourself above everyone else. And please note, I have used the words you seem to have, and please note how many times I use that phrase when responding to someone whose words on a page I am trying to understand. They only bother to genetically modify major commercial crops. The 1906 earthquake demolished the firm's facilities, but they quickly moved to temporary space in San Francisco, and the company bought out Cox Seed and Plant. I attempted to end the conversation very briefly without a long explanation in the comment before this one. I don't read their marketing politics or missions because all that is important to me is a product I am comfortable growing. %PDF-1.4 % Well wishes to you too. Compare $ 1 99 (1) Model# 0069. I am comfortable with my reply, and understand where you are coming from. Similar to our situation with the food supply, dependence on the government is only a service to the government, never the governed. They could care less about it. Grow your. Does Ferry-Morse have a catalog? We offer a large selection of home gardening vegetables seeds with high yields. The smaller seed companies I was referring to are generally independent operators and do not have the resources of Big Ag behind them. Period. 0000489481 00000 n Seed Companies Owned by Monsanto or Sells Monsanto's Seeds Seed Companies who are either owned by Monsanto or sell Monsanto products. It is currently part of Green Garden Products, a privately owned gardening company based in Massachusetts. Audubon Workshop Breck's Bulbs Cook's Garden Dege Garden Center Earl May Seed E & R Seed Co Ferry Morse Flower of the Month Club Gardens Alive Germania Seed Co Garden Trends HPS Jung Seed Genetics Lindenberg Seeds McClure and Zimmerman Quality Bulb Brokers Mountain Valley . ASM198 - Since the Infowars site is unreliable, I went looking for reliable sources and tried to think what I consider reliable. [g] Not always easy to get what is in your head clearly down on the page. Burpee was never owned by Monsanto, but sold its west coast operations which changed hands and were eventually bought by Monsanto. Apr 27, 2014 - Monsanto owned seed brands OWNED BY MONSANTO OR SEMINIS OR SELL SMALL PERCENTAGES OF SEEDS FROM THEM. Reduce their power and influence by buying from people who are trustworthy and interested in keeping the food supply unadulterated. Do you realize that many people already are avoiding all soy and corn because of the difficulty now of finding non GMO soy and corn? Then I illustrated it by showing you that the Florida Citrus Greening disease is here right here and now. If anything the larger companies have less questionable variety development. They are trying to sensationalize things through scare tactics, in my opinion. If either of us does not grasp it, I think the person who is willing for GMO technology to tamper with our food supply is the more likely person to not grasp the gravity of the situation. Someone above in this thread, mentioned that they were not concerned with whether or not Monsanto was buying up seed companies, because they doubted that Monsanto would ever sell GMO seeds to home gardeners, because of a worry about their patent. Two posters before you objected to how riddled with false information the linked article that forms the basis of this thread is. As to questioning your intentions - I had reason to question your intentions, what do you call this statement you made? And what does my belief that GMOs are 1000% wrong, or any reason why I believe that, have anything at all to do with the sentence you are responding to? You dont even know the reason why Monsanto is buying so many seed companies. No company sells GMO seeds to home gardeners. Instead of simply looking for companies that are owned by Monsanto to avoid, I can also direct my attention to these small, regional, seed breeders who are producing quality seed that is suited to my garden. Here you go again, criticizing the way in which I've contributed to the thread. Which if you had shared that, we might have found some common ground. Any seed you buy will not be GMO, unless you are a commercial farmer and then you will must sign a GMO agreement before they will sell you seeds. [2] You think that you have answered it, but to me that was not an answer. Is there actually a big difference between someone being torn and being undecided? Only if you are trying to convince them of something. If you need to label me, which I feel is unfair and would not do to you, please put me in the category of "independent thinker" and "undecided" on the whole GMO mess. Especially, that you take offense that I said you misquoted me. At SEEDS OF CHANGE, we believe in the power of plants, which is why weve pledged to not only put more plants on the table, but also to put more in the ground. Pupilla - Not following you. I do not think my emotions or anything I believe or present as testimonials makes any difference to others. I found out that Plantation Products (such a lovely company, NOT) owns American Seed, Ferry Morse, Jiffy, NK and McKenzie. You continue to reduce the reasoning behind avoiding Monsanto owned seed companies and any other GMO seed companies to your own limited scope, that because all seed sold to home gardeners are now non GMO you don't have to avoid them. I am not an evangelist, simply a critical thinker who keeps their faith to themselves and encourages others to respect the belief of all just not to manipulate others with the sort of false, misleading & manipulative, and incomplete information which activists on both artificially created poles routinely are doing. "We do not buy seed from Monsanto-owned Seminis. Their paper catalog usually has an update each year about what is going on with varieties that they are finding that are non GMO and varieties they are dropping because of an association with GMO seeds. and aside from seeds, I don't use the kind of products they make any way. Without pioneers in the field of biotechnology, we would still be battling diabetes with insulin taken from slaughterhouse animals. But, to be honest, that is an effect more of the monolithic style of farming that has been the standard in this country since the end of the Second World War rather than a direct result of growing genetically engineered plants. I use $0.50 worth of seeds each year from it. More selfish motives that ignore what is good for mankind or the natural world, in general. The concerns people have a very real. Ive made a few points that represent my own point of view and you skip right over them in favor of suffocating the conversation with more of your own opinions and explanations and analysis. 0000492971 00000 n I will not martyr my favorite varieties as you might. I haven't bought a non organic commercial fertilizer in 30 years of growing. :-). You still dont know that they wont at some future time. Ferry-Morse Flower Seeds at Lowes.com I'm not sure that was the point you mean to say. So why is it still being discussed? Anyway, let me try again.without going back to reread the thread again. How did you come to this conclusion? Plenty of organic seed and NO GMO seed. D.M. But Monsanto and Bayer had a history back to the 1950s, in a joint venture called Mobay . McKenzie Seeds is a seed packaging company founded in Brandon, Manitoba in 1896. [5] The combined firm became the largest seed distribution company in the world. http://planet.infowars.com/uncategorized/seed-companies-owned-by-monsanto. I am 1000% against genetically modifying seed. Although, how do you easily find out who owns these companies? I get Mother Earth News out of the library once in awhile. - Do you realize that the dictionary definition to call someone out is to challenge someone to a fight? It would be nice to have first-hand experience, accuracy, truthfulness and completeness in anything we read and I am quick to react when something doesn't smell right. ;-), I appreciate that you see some value in it. I can avoid their products, which I do. Not relevant enough. We are not well suited to discuss controversial subjects with each other. That is an example of what I understand a label to mean. Ferry-Morse. No, Pupilla, I did not tell you millions of people were dying, a link I posted reported that, which I asked if it were true, did I not? I've made an attempt to at least present some links to what should be reliable sources of information. And I thought my above response was very clear about where I personally stand on this issue, do you have some problem with that? Also, this isn't meant as an attack on anyone here or their opinions. That is a really bad combination. Disclaimer: I worked for a seed company that was being purchased by Monsanto, in a GMO-free operation. Yet you dont consider this statement a label? Pupilla - I just saw this response. That's why I'm concerned about them. . But if you did not have an interest or the time to look at them, you only had to say so. 0000020576 00000 n It's a coop. [3] A. E. F. White, John Stoughton Newberry, and W. K. Anderson were also officers. I am not here for an in depth debate on GMOs since the premise of the thread is how to avoid GMO seeds. Again, you opened up the discussion of GMO when you challenged the idea of boycotting GMO seed companies. There was no Whole Foods, or organic seed, fertilizers, etc. Ferry Morse Seed Company is one of America's oldest and most trusted garden seed companies. Their focus is on preserving varieties of seed that gardeners and farmers bring to North America when their families immigrate (d), and traditional varieties grown by American Indians, Mennonites and the Amish. 2. Is that your point of view? Thank you prarie. Charlevoix operations continued until 1927. But because I dont know you, and because you continue to state your intentions are good, I choose to believe that you dont understand how adding this kind of analysis to the conversation becomes a problem. On one hand, you object to boycotting Monsanto seed companies, on the other youre willing to offer suggestions on hitting their bottom line in other ways, as long as that doesnt jeopardize the tomato varieties that you dont want to lose. Keeney & Son joined together. Id like to see individuals participate more in creating businesses that are all about community and supporting the environment. Argument: an oral disagreement; verbal opposition. You give me alternative suggestions, but Im afraid you have not solved the GMO issue with your alternative suggestions at all. 0000002729 00000 n If you have some opinion on GMO seeds, on Monsanto, or other companies producing GMO seeds, or the preservation of non GMO seeds, which are the topic of this thread, then perhaps you might share that in concise and direct language and leave out the rest. The only reason I did in this instance was because so much was said about the original link being suspect. I simply replied that I do not, would not and have not called attention to your intentions because they were never part of this discussion. You answer in a round about way. Monsanto spends a lot of money lobbying Washington, so -- we have no law against genetically modifying seed. I dont find this constructive at all, so Im sorry but Im going to end here. With over 1800 seed varieties on offer, the company is proud to have veggies like Black Incan Corn, Coffee Okra and Marble Beans on its roster. Get the Container-Friendly Flower Kit from Ferry-Morse for $39.99. If you feel I have offended you in some way and you want to respond, then I will continue until you feel satisfied. +w4'h\o6mKk/SkA2?+!>Qbl!=;EINQ$K^7i76Go]. Being undecided means I have issues with both sides. So, because I have discussed avoiding GMO seeds, I am deliberately manipulating people and bullying them and using fear as a weapon, with an argument that is illogical? Which seed companies are owned by Monsanto? - IronSet Its not easy to explain it completely, but Ill give it a try. Founded in 1856, Ferry-Morse is one of the oldest operating seed businesses in the United States and pioneered the practice of selling only fresh flower, herb, and vegetable . Here is a link to an article about it on the Huffington Post, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-hassler/bitter-seeds-documentary_b_2155970.html. Hopefully IF it is explained well enough others might get a better understanding of the issue.". It is not a solution to me. You are so right. What is it you expect - for me to write a thesis on GMOs to include for this thread? In 1856, Milo T. Gardner, Dexter M. Ferry, and Eber F. Church[1] organized a small seed-growing company, M.T. I completely agree with you, that we do dive headfirst into what is considered 'progress' and in the process we let go of what is very valuable and sometimes priceless then only in hindsight, do we acknowledge or understand what we've done. Is Garden of Life owned by Monsanto? The D.M. Check. Ferry-Morse Seed Company - Wikipedia Second, you dont have any way of knowing, why Monsanto is buying up so many seed companies. 0000001737 00000 n American Seed offers high quality products with a goal of remaining affordable for consumers. That is an analysis of my part of the conversation and intentions and a label that youve added to describe your interpretation of it. I said this topic was an emotional issue for everyone, not just me. 3. That can only be because you have failed to grasp what my concerns are and what they mean. I never would have guessed. Only if you are trying to convince them of something. And if you did not want to, then why did you find the one link that you disagreed with and respond to only that? And with their history of trying to influence legislation, at some point, once they have a monopoly of owning seed companies, then what? And I'm transferring the burden of 'fact checking' to others? Negative: On Jun 26, 2014, . I spent over 2 hours composing a post this morning, which amounted to defending what I meant by what I said and after two hours of that, had no time left to actually discuss GMOs. Still any article or post or thread that criticizes GMO is a good thing to me, because it gets the word out. prarie, clear as day. So, perhaps you can now see, how we are a very poor fit to have a conversation? There have been remarkable and beneficial gains made through their scientific research. Who is considering that? Hollyhock Summer Carnival Mixed Colors Seed. Ferry-Morse. Bottom Line to me is why give Monsanto more power? Free shipping any order of $50+! But you claim that you do. Yet you dont consider this statement a label? I said --. Founded in 1856, Ferry-Morse seeds have been sold continuously since before Abe Lincoln was President. I have answered your post this time by copying the body of it and putting yours in italics in its entirety so I would not miss anyting and responded to each and every point. Thanks your thoughts prarie. To blame it all on GE crops is not an accurate portrayal of reality. We are all human and perfect accuracy is beyond all of us. We are proud to carry Organic and Heirloom Vegetable seeds as well. Similarly, Monsanto has the rights to Better Boy, one of my regular tomatoes. I share my experiences about organic growing. What is the best place to buy seeds online? - Mystylit.com 0000055257 00000 n Multiple smaller, non high tech companies that are manageable by individuals and an asset to their communities. 0000002615 00000 n You already said it is an emotional issue for you and you think it is 1000% wrong. I just call you out for using fallacious logic or repeating long debunked claims you choose to provide links for about millions of people dying which have been debunked.
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